More on lead-mining…

Last month, we heard from a researcher based in Ottawa, Canada, who had decided to get in touch after seeing the video post about the Gregory Mine Reckoning Book. She was hoping we could answer a question about another source that has historical information on the lead industry, to wit, the early 18th century day books of William Hodgkinson of Overton Hall. The subject of the research in question was the Cowley family of Ashover, who were involved in farming and lead mining in the 16th to 17th century. The researcher’s interest in the lead mining angle was piqued by Stuart Band’s article in the Peak District Mines Historical Society’s Bulletin in Summer 1996, entitled “An Ashover Lead Mining Tithe Dispute in the Seventeenth Century”, which mentions a Gyles Cowley. According to the researcher’s best information, this Cowley inherited mines, groves and mine shares in the Ashover area from his great uncle Leonard Cowley (gentleman, of Chesterfield), via his grandfather Gyles, a yeoman farmer, and his father Gyles, both of Ashover and both some time lead miners. She then found references to this same Gyles Cowley in our catalogue descriptions of the Hodgkinson day books. She noted the page numbers from the catalogue and ordered copies. Here’s what we sent her: D2086 p99 Are you wondering why the images are so dark, and hard to make out?  It’s because they were taken from microfilm, which is all we have: the original William Hodgkinson day books remain in private hands.  However, if you click on the image, you should be able to zoom in on it, depending on your browser. The questions for us to answer (slightly paraphrased) were these:

  • What is the difference between the amounts listed on the left-hand pages and those on the right-hand pages? – is one side outgoing expenses/costs and the other incoming monies? – or vice versa?  In particular, there are references, mostly on the right-hand pages to periodic ‘reckonings’ involving loads of ore and Gyles Cowley. (I understand that a periodic ‘reckoning’ would take place between mine owner & miner when wages would be paid out for a previous period of work, based on numbers of loads of ore taken.)
  • Would Gyles Cowley have been delivering loads of lead ore to Hodgkinson (for him to smelt or sell on)?  Or was he paying duties (lot, or even leased tithes) to Hodgkinson for lead ore taken from his own mines in the area?  Besides ore, there are also lots of references to mortgages and loans. I am assuming that Hodgkinson was lending money and not the reverse? If so, does this mean he would have acted like a bank in the Ashover area at that time?

Let me not be coy about my shortcomings.  I had not a clue. I relayed the queries on to Matthew Pawelski.  Now then. I would be letting the side down if I did not say at this point that my decision to do this was highly exceptional – Matthew is a very busy doctoral student and isn’t normally involved in record office enquiries.  But he was able to help on this occasion.  Here is what he thought (also paraphrased):

  • This is a double-entry account book: there is a “D” on the left hand page denoting debit and a “C” on the right denoting credit. I also noticed the name Cowley written at the top of the left hand page, meaning this refers directly to Hodgkinson’s dealings with Cowley, so Hodgkinson is purchasing raw lead ore from Cowley. The debit on the left shows how much money Hodgkinson owed Cowley and the right hand page shows the value of lead ore Cowley owed Hodgkinson (the classic double-entry layout).
  • Hodgkinson was a major lead merchant in the parish of Ashover, with dealings at the local, regional, national and even international level. For more information on his foreign dealings Philip Riden has written an article entitled: “An English Factor at Stockholm”, which is very useful for getting a better idea about the nature of his business dealings.  Riden has also published an article about Hodgkinson in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, which you can access online.

Have you a Derbyshire Library card?  If so, follow this link to find out how to use the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography for free.  Matthew continued:

  • Generally speaking, lead was not sold on the market in raw form, it would be taken to a smelting furnace where it would be melted down and processed to form bars, pipes, sheets etc.  Thus we can assume that Hodgkinson was a more established merchant, while Cowley is involved more in the extraction of lead as perhaps a miner and/or shareholder in a mine. Hodgkinson was certainly not involved directly in any extraction, he was of a higher social station.  Men of his station (if involved in the lead industry) were more likely to be merchants, furnace owners and “absentee” shareholders in the mines. The process of extraction was, at the dawn of the 18th century, mainly left to independent teams of miners with very little proprietorship oversight.

Matthew also tackled the question about whether Hodgkinson would have acted like a bank for the Ashover area:

That Hodgkinson established an account for Gyles Cowley implies a long term financial relationship. Borrowing and lending in the eighteenth century was not as it is today. Even after the establishment of the Bank of England in 1694, credit was extremely hard to come by and there were no local banks as we would understand them today. There were a number of financial difficulties facing people outside of London in the pursuit of business expansion or investment. There was a severe lack of currency. Money was hard to come by, workers were often paid in kind, usually in the form of resources, such as wood, food or even manufactured metals such as lead or iron. This meant that a far greater emphasis was placed upon assets such as land, property and buildings. These were relatively stable forms of wealth and people who controlled these assets became central figureheads in society, in both business and domestic realms. Hodgkinson would have been one of the few people in Ashover with substantial assets and thus he became became an important source of credit within the parish.

Matthew concluded that:

Gyles Cowley appears to be a man who dabbled in various elements of the lead industry; a self styled business sort – who were becoming increasingly common in the Derbyshire Lead Industry during the eighteenth century. These men conducted business at all the various levels of production from extraction, preparation and sale. What I have been presented with here would suggest to me that Cowley was primarily focused on the extraction of lead and was merely dabbling in merchanting and lacked the capital necessary to establish a smelting operation to process the raw lead he had obtained from the mines he was involved with. It must also be noted that he might be selling this ore on behalf of a partnership or a collection of miners (known as a cope), I don’t believe he will be receiving all the money directly into his own accounts. Rather, this money would be required to pay wages, buy new mining equipment and to be divided among other partners.

As I say, we don’t expect Matthew to spend his time dealing with enquiries, but it was nice to make an exception on this occasion – I think it shows just how useful it is to have a doctoral student with a formal attachment to Derbyshire Record Office as well as Lancaster University.

13 thoughts on “More on lead-mining…

  1. Very interesting, I’m in Australia and have direct connections to William and John Milnes of Ashover who were involved in lead mining.

  2. Hello Mark,
    I have just come across this article and was fascinated by it. I am descended from Thomas Gladwin of Tupton who married Helen, daughter of Giles Cowley. I am interested in whether you have found any information about Thomas Gladwin’s father, also Thomas Gladwin b 1598 who apparently made a lot of money in lead mining in the Edleston area. I wonder if Thomas Gladwin (elder) worked with Giles Cowley and if there are any links I can follow to develop the story for my family research.

  3. Wow. I just read this article with great interest. I am related to all (?) the Cowleys mentioned in it, I think the Gyles junior in the image was born c1669 to Gyles and Dorothy (who were my 8x GGparents! Gyles junior was not my direct ancestor but his sister Jane b1684 is and she married Joseph Milns in 1707, the Milns family also ‘big’ in the area at this time. Do we know of any of the Cowleys or Milns left a will?

    Kind regards,
    Richard

  4. Thanks Brian! I have had a look at your issue 162 and the article about Joseph Banks with its various mentions of Derbyshire and Australia, and I’m sure it will be of great interest to a lot of our blog readers.
    Looking at Peak District Mines Historical Society bulletins, I notice there is a reference to the Whim engine in Vol 6, No 6 dating from Dec 1977. The article title is “Wind, Water and Steam Power on Derbyshire Lead Mines: A List”, and it was written by L Willies, J H Rieuwerts and R F Flindall. There’s a contents list for PDMHS bulletins on https://pdmhs.co.uk/mining-history-index/ and you can download the article in question by going to https://pdmhs.co.uk/files/articles.php and using “Bulletin 6-6” as your search term.
    On p314 there is a mention of a “Whim engine sold by Yatestoop to Plackett for £263-18-2”, found in a document bearing reference “SCL Bag 538”. At the time of publication, the Bagshawe collection was held in Sheffield Central Library (hence SCL) but since then it has been transferred here, so the original document is in our custody. The reference has been updated to D7676/BagC/538. Our catalogue description says this document is “Miscellaneous reckonings (1827-1855) For Stanton mines, Shining sough (Alport), Portoway (Elton), Water Grave (Wardlow), Odin (Castleton) etc.”

    • Hello Mark
      Thank you for your help with the PDMHS Bulletin contact. There was a lot of information on their site, The 3 articles by Stuart Brand covered Gregory Mine well, but there is very little detail on Thompson Whimsey 1795 Engine.
      The other items that are difficult to get detail (ie drawings or sketches ) on is pump and rod detail. Pipe is also difficult. It seems that timber and cast iron were in use for the pumps and wrought iron,copper, cast iron brass lead and solder were in use for steam.
      I am currently trying to draw up a schematic cross section of the Gregory mine showing the 3 engines and the various associated dry and wet rods counter balances slide rods and pumps and soughs. Then there are the horse gins or Whims, access ladders, rails, wagons lifting buckets and surface transport of coal and ore.
      This mine was at the transition from draft animal to machine power with a fascinating mix of skills and gear.
      Thanks again for your assistance
      Brian Smith

  5. No, I’m afraid it’s a different one altogether – he lived from 1662 to 1731. In trying to answer your question, I noticed that the main catalogue entry for this collection was short on biographical detail, so I have sought out some facts to rectify that.

    The Spring 1997 edition of Derbyshire Miscellany (Vol 14, pt 5) quotes a memorial inscription on the chancel of Ashover church, which says:
    “William Hodgkinson of Overton, in this parish, esquire. He was bred by a merchant and added considerably to his parental estate by his industry and frugality, virtues which he practised himself and greatly encouraged in others. His whole estate, improved with an honest and fair character, he left to Mr William Banks Hodgkinson second son of his only daughter Anne (whom he survived) by Joseph Banks, of Revesby Abbey in the county of Lincoln, esquire who in gratitude erected this monument to his memory. He died 6th December 1731, aged 70”.
    The death in 1731 at the age of 70 corresponds with an entry for a William Hodgkinson in the Ashover baptism register dated 2 April 1662. Val Neal’s transcript lists plenty of other William Hodgkinsons of Ashover – there are baptism entries in that name in 1665, 1673, 1683, 1684, 1696, and that’s just the seventeenth century!

    The only son of William Banks Hodgkinson (who later dropped the Hodgkinson name) was Sir Joseph Banks, the noted naturalist (1743-1820).

  6. Dear Sir/Ms.

    Is the William Hodgkinson the following.

    #William HODGKINSON b: 1762 in Winster, Derbyshire, England
    Mother: #Hannah BARKER b: 1763 See Hodgkinson Doc

    • Attn. Mark Smith Ref “Treasure 9 The Gregory Mine reckoning Book
      Dear Mark
      I hope that you are still associated with this project which is of interest to me.
      By way of introduction
      My name is Brian Smith, and I am editor of our club magazine.
      Our Association, “The Lake Goldsmith Steam Preservation Association, is based near Melbourne Victoria Australia and it is involved in the preservation of Heritage machinery and processes. As part of the 250 year celebration of Cpt.James Cook and Sir Joseph Banks 1770 world circumnavigation, and survey of Australia’s East Coast, it was decided, firstly, to include a feature on the instruments that were used by Cook to navigate and observe the Transit of Venus, and secondly, to include a second feature on Sir Joseph Banks association with the use of steam to de-water the Gregory Mine.
      Banks is often referred to as the “Father of Australia” and his involvement in our History and Natural History in all its forms, are well known.
      His direct involvement in the use of pre-rotary steam engines was a total surprise to me, and I have been amazed to find the amount of information on the lead mines and procedures that are recorded. What I expected to be a quick reference story has snowballed into a story of 18th Century mining.
      It would appear that there are drawings of the Gregory Mine engines and pumps together with the Newcomen and Boulton & Watts engines and slide rods systems which would make an interesting feature in their own right, and it is in the hope of finding out how I might gain access to the, that I am writing
      I have a copy of Francis Thompson’s 1774 drawing of the Newcomen engine, but this is only above ground.
      The early Millclose Mine and the Yardstoop Mine are of as much interest, so any information on them is just as welcome if it is available.
      It would appear that Engineer Francis Thompson had an involvement with these 3 mines and thar W Milnes, the Overton manager for Banks may have had an interest in the Yardstoop mine, but I am not sure if Banks or his uncle Banks Hodgkinson were involved there. It would certainly help our story if a link there could be established.
      If you have got this far thank you, and may i hope that you are able to provide a lead that I might follow to find this information.
      The earlier story on Cook, which is an entirely different subject, but a guide to what the Banks story will be can be found on our web page as no 161 on the magazine page.
      Yours sincerely
      Brian Smith
      Ed Goldsmith

      • Hello Brian – what an interesting area of research. The drawings you mention sound like the ones in the Boulton & Watt archive held by Birmingham Archives and Heritage (ref MS 3147). Here’s a link to a relevant bit of their catalogue: http://calmview.birmingham.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=MS+3147%2f5%2f546&pos=2 . Note that it names Sir Joseph Banks as one of the principal proprietors of the Gregory Mine. I am confident that our colleagues in Birmingham will be able to process an order for copies from the collection. Perhaps they will do this using the microfilm version rather than the original. Adam Matthew Publications no longer sells copies of said microfilms, but still provides a detailed listing, which might help you narrow things down: http://www.ampltd.co.uk/digital_guides/industrial_revolution_series_one_part_15/Contents.aspx. The listing refers to Yatestoop rather than Yardstoop mine, although there are references to the same mine in our own catalogue (https://calmview.derbyshire.gov.uk/CalmView/Default.aspx?) which spell it Yatestoop, Yate Stoop, Gate Stoop or Gatestoop.

      • Hello Mark
        Thank you for your helpful reply. I have sent away for information as suggested.
        Since writing last, I have learnt that there was a third steam engine at the Gregory Mine it was a “Whimsie” engine of about 8hp to raise the ore. It was located at the Forfield shaft at the West end of the mine. The engine was supplied and erected by Francis Thompson in 1795 and it was in operation in March 1796. Thompson patented a tandem twin cylinder engine in 1792.
        I am interested to learn if you have any knowledge or information on this engine.
        The existence of this engine makes our future story on this mine a lot more interesting as it includes 3 different types of engine, operating at the same time as horse powered Whim /Gins.
        If it is of any interest the our story so far can be downloaded from our website at http://www.lakegoldsmithsteamrally.org.au under the magazine tab.
        Edition 162 is the current edition and the story is inside
        Thank you again for your help
        Brian Smith

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